Constructing Film Middle-Earth
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What setting differences can you think of in the film version of Middle-Earth (for both The Hobbit & The Lord of the Rings)? It seems, for instance, that Arnor doesn't get reformed at the end of Return of the King. We know that the Scouring of the Shire didn't happen, or the healing as performed by Sam. There's no mention of Legolas and Gimli creating their colonies. Celeborn leaves with Galadriel (so no East Lorien). Mount Gundabad is apparently quickly traveled to from the Long Lake.

Are there any other setting differences you guys can think of? What sort of consequences would these have on the setting at large?
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You can pretty much write off the entire northern history from the movie version of Middle-earth. Although some people argued for years that the LoTR films simply ignored the history of Arnor and the successor realms, the Hobbit films undid all that retconning by having Gandalf visit the "tomb of the Nazgul", which doesn't exist in Tolkien's history.

As for why Peter Jackson did that, my guess is he was trying to avoid the legal complications of using ideas from outside of The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. Yes, there are the LoTR appendices, but they don't provide a lot of detail about some things the way Unfinished Tales does.

Of course, it could just be that Peter wanted to tell a much simpler backstory to avoid confusing the audience.
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(September 3rd, 2021, 12:18 AM)Michael Wrote: You can pretty much write off the entire northern history from the movie version of Middle-earth. Although some people argued for years that the LoTR films simply ignored the history of Arnor and the successor realms, the Hobbit films undid all that retconning by having Gandalf visit the "tomb of the Nazgul", which doesn't exist in Tolkien's history.

As for why Peter Jackson did that, my guess is he was trying to avoid the legal complications of using ideas from outside of The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. Yes, there are the LoTR appendices, but they don't provide a lot of detail about some things the way Unfinished Tales does.

Of course, it could just be that Peter wanted to tell a much simpler backstory to avoid confusing the audience.

Yeah, I feel like it was just a compression of events coupled with story changes that facilitated that compression.  Other choices are beyond my comprehension.

I had forgotten about all of the changes with the Nazgûl in the films.
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