Quantum of Solace (already breaking records)
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Oh hooray.... another Bond movie! Another two-hour block of hundred-thousand dollar cars getting blown up, guys in thousand dollar suits doing stunts unrealistic even by cartoon standards, villains molded after Snidely Whiplash, and girls who represent every teenage boys masturbatory fantasy... oh sign me up for that! :gunfiring: :gunfiring: :gunfiring:
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RedVengeanceIII Wrote:Oh hooray.... another Bond movie! Another two-hour block of hundred-thousand dollar cars getting blown up, guys in thousand dollar suits doing stunts unrealistic even by cartoon standards, villains molded after Snidely Whiplash, and girls who represent every teenage boys masturbatory fantasy... oh sign me up for that! :gunfiring: :gunfiring: :gunfiring:

What do mean "teenage boys"? :laugh:

The previous Bond film lost many of the tropes that you describe, and really weren't part of the multitude of previous Bond films, only those from the last ten years or so. But without some of these things (action, cars, girl(s)) it just wouldn't be a Bond film. Who wants to see a Bond film that isn't a Bond film? Confusedcare:
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RobRoy Wrote:What do mean "teenage boys"? :laugh:

I'll tell you exactly what I mean by that: while I doubt that I will ever receive the Man Most Appreciated by Feminists Award, even I find Ian Fleming's treatment of women appalling, if not so much because it's degrading as because it shows abysmally poor character developmental ability. The Bond girls are exaclty what I said: the typical teenage boy's typical masturbatory fantasy: beautiful, brainless, and ready to *you know what* at the drop of a hat... you would expect a 13-year-old boy who's just discovered his... ummm... function... to think of women that way; but not a grown man, and certainly not an author who has any character developmental ability of any note. :gunfiring:
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RobRoy Wrote:The previous Bond film lost many of the tropes that you describe, and really weren't part of the multitude of previous Bond films, only those from the last ten years or so. But without some of these things (action, cars, girl(s)) it just wouldn't be a Bond film. Who wants to see a Bond film that isn't a Bond film? Confusedcare:

To me, the real question is: who wants to see a Bond film? Period.
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RedVengeanceIII Wrote:To me, the real question is: who wants to see a Bond film? Period.

Shouldn't that be "who wants to see a Bond film? Question mark."? :wicked:

Apparently, that would be a lot of people, and from all walks of life, including Luthy above and me. :poke: I greatly enjoyed Casino Royale with Daniel Craig, and I'm reasonably excited to see him revise the role of Bond a second time. I was tired of the tried-and-true Bond portrayal and pleased with the new direction they went in, while still keeping many of the props that made Bond, Bond.
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I'll be doing my part to see that it breaks records stateside. My commander-in-chief --er...I mean, girlfriend-- informed me that we'll be spending time with some of our friends from out of town the weekend it opens. I just know that they're going to suggest going to see the film.

Being something of a 007 aficionado, it'll ruin the experience for me if I see it for the first time with a group, so I'm gonna sneak a viewing in early Friday evening before I meet up with everyone, that way when we see it again I can just sit back and not be bothered by the insipid comments and questions! :laugh:

Yes, I'm quite crazy, I know.
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RedVengeanceIII Wrote:To me, the real question is: who wants to see a Bond film? Period.

Well, the answer is pretty clear - the last one made about half a billion dollars at the box office alone, not couting the people who bought or rented dvd's, or watched it on pay-per-view or cable. So even if people paid top-dollar for their tickets at say... $8 a pop (and realistically, plenty got student, senior, military, matinee and kids' discounts) it's 60 or 70 million people who want to see a Bond film worldwide.
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august Wrote:Well, the answer is pretty clear - the last one made about half a billion dollars at the box office alone, not couting the people who bought or rented dvd's, or watched it on pay-per-view or cable. So even if people paid top-dollar for their tickets at say... $8 a pop (and realistically, plenty got student, senior, military, matinee and kids' discounts) it's 60 or 70 million people who want to see a Bond film worldwide.

I guess it's just one of those phenomena that I very simply will never understand. Huh Confusedtupid: :crazy:
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Yep, that's the nature of entertainment. There will always be 90 million people who want to watch the Super Bowl... and twice as many who wonder why. The kid in k-5 who wants to be a cowboy when he grows up will never undertsand why another kid wants to be an astronaut.... and the lady who collects Harlequin romance paperbacks and the kid who collects comic books will each never understand why the other wastes their time. Smile
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Understood. :thumbsup:

Obviously the 3 G's, whatever my personal feeling about it, has been a winning formula for nearly 50 years now, and will very likely continue to be.
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RedVengeanceIII Wrote:Obviously the 3 G's, whatever my personal feeling about it, has been a winning formula for nearly 50 years now, and will very likely continue to be.

We can only hope RV, we can only hope.
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RobRoy Wrote:Apparently, that would be a lot of people, and from all walks of life, including Luthy above and me. :poke:

My 2 cents: I like it when Daniel Craig isn't wearing his shirt . . .


You may continue with your serious discussion now :bg:
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Boomstick Wrote:... I'm gonna sneak a viewing in early Friday evening before I meet up with everyone, that way when we see it again I can just sit back and not be bothered by the insipid comments and questions! :laugh:

Yes, I'm quite crazy, I know.

I can't judge on the crazy part, but you're not the only one who goes to see certain films ( at least the first viewing) without having others along. I think ( in my case, anyway) it's to really get into the movie, without anyone breaking into that zone...best way I can describe it, anyway...:music:
( and I try to go to an early showing, so there's less chance of having to hear strangers' insipid comments! :wicked: )
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Interestingly, this weekend's USA Today addresses this very issue:

Quote:After six Bonds and 22 films, audiences still dig it. Casino Royale ultimately grossed $594 million worldwide, topping Die Another Day's $431 million record. Quantum already had a record-breaking debut in Europe....

And as Variety reported last year, "Bond, which dates back to 1962, has generated $4.44 billion worldwide."
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I expect this one will do about as well as "Casino Royale," it will be interesting to see how it goes. Did people like "Casino Royale," or were they just curious to see how different it was? It's got big potential for the American holiday long weekend at the end of November.
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If they were just going out of curiosity, they evidently bought more tickets than anyone who actually liked the various predecessors ever did! :laugh: So if that was the case, then I'm sure the producers are hoping for even more curiosity!
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august Wrote:Interestingly, this weekend's USA Today addresses this very issue:



And as Variety reported last year, "Bond, which dates back to 1962, has generated $4.44 billion worldwide."

Well, I guess if you agree with the old addage that says you can't argue with success, then I am defeated. Cry Cry Cry
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RedVengeanceIII Wrote:Well, I guess if you agree with the old addage that says you can't argue with success, then I am defeated. Cry Cry Cry

Everyone's tastes vary, to be sure, but you might be surprised if you give "Casino Royale" a try, RV. I think you'd find it closer to the "Bourne" movies than the previous James Bond outings.

Personally I think they've left a bit too much of the James Bond flavor behind. From what I hear they've dumped even more (if that were possible) for "Quantum of Solace." In my opinion, you can mix typical 007 elements in with a serious movie and have very rewarding results. "The Living Daylights" was proof of that. (As I've said before and will say again) :bg:
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I'm questioning if they'll win the opening box office here in the US, with Twilight opening the same weekend (and it's already selling out theaters in early order sales) it's gonna be a tough run.

I'd choose QoS over Twilight though.
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