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    Thread: Taming of Smeagol
Post: Taming of Smeagol

Why is the first chapter called Taming of smeagol? Smeagol wasn't really tamed, was he? He turned on Frodo and Sam in the end.
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 1 424 December 5th, 2003, 07:49 PM
    Thread: who would win borg or the Empire
Post: who would win borg or the Empire

Borg cubes are adaptable, but it would take an army of them to destroy the Deathstar-don't forget, the death star is as big as a small moon, but Borg cubes are much smaller. They could prroblably dest...
GandalfElrondAragorn Star Trek 25 1,493 December 4th, 2003, 03:48 PM
    Thread: How now brown cow
Post: How now brown cow

Was there a cow mentioned in the Lord of the Rings?
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 25 1,131 December 4th, 2003, 03:42 PM
    Thread: Forums
Post: Forums

Are there any other Forums like SF-Fandom for discussing Tolkien?
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 24 1,158 December 3rd, 2003, 11:44 PM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

If you were footnoting a research paper you would be required to document not only the book, but the page number as well sop that other people can find and verify that what is being quoted is being ta...
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 30th, 2003, 03:18 PM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

My point is that Tolkien did not intend to encourage us to worship Eru Quote:Originally posted by Attalus Ah, but the God-father-creator of his stories is the One God. JRRT never contemplated, tha...
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 30th, 2003, 03:14 PM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

[flame-bait edited - RR] The point isn't that God can't distinguish between prayers made to him and ones that aren't, the point is that he created us to worship him, and he has commanded us to worshi...
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 30th, 2003, 03:12 PM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

Exodus 32 forbids people from worshipping God in a false way. I cannot call God "Baal" and expect him to be pleased with it. This is niminmalism-a decadant philosophy that says that words mean the sam...
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 30th, 2003, 10:58 AM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

What other authors say about Tolkien isn't the same as what Tolkien says about himself. We have a person on this website who mistakenly believes that the valar are gods. Nowhere in Tolkien's writings ...
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 30th, 2003, 10:27 AM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

Tell me, is it loveing to let somerone walk off a cliff ? Love does not mean permitting someone to do whatever they want even if it harms themselves and others. To love someone means to will their goo...
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 30th, 2003, 10:19 AM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

Your refusal to name thiose sources makes it impossible to read them. As I've already said, the example of Exodus 32 forbids people from worshipping God in a false way. Tolkien would not encourage peo...
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 30th, 2003, 10:14 AM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

What you are seem to ber trying to imply is that Eru can be worshipped as God. If this is in fact what you are implying, you should read Exodus 32. God got very mad at people for worshipping him in a ...
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 30th, 2003, 10:05 AM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 28th, 2003, 06:17 PM
    Thread: Beorn Bombadil
Post: Beorn Bombadil

Are both of these characters considered an anomaly by Tolkien? Beorn seems to be a werebear or a bearman and isn't in any other story. Tom Bombadil seems to be a Maiar, but then, he doesn't
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 9 984 November 27th, 2003, 01:07 PM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

Let me clarify something in case we frightened you off by our arguing. We don't deny you your right to choose your religious beliefs, but you asked for our opinion of those beliefs. What (I think) we ...
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 27th, 2003, 11:18 AM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

So what you're saying is that it is okay for the woman who believes the Valar are gods to tell us she does and ask us for our opinion, but it is not okay to give our opinion and explain why we disagre...
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 27th, 2003, 10:31 AM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

I don't chastize people for believing a lie, I try and convince tham that it is a lie, but if they choose to continue to believe it anyways, I've done all I can. Sharing the gospel is our job. Convert...
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 27th, 2003, 10:10 AM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

The Catholic Church teaches that there is some truth in all religions, but that all religions aren't true. The Devil never tells a comp[lete lie. No one would believe it. What he does dop is reflected...
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 27th, 2003, 10:06 AM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

I am sorry if what I said offended you. All I meant was that the Catholic Church teaches that the Bible is free from error and contradictions. There are passages in scripture that can be misread as ...
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 27th, 2003, 09:57 AM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

So if someone's religion requires ritual murder-you're okay with that? Quote:Originally posted by Attalus I agree that, while I am an unapologetic Christian, I would not dream of attacking another's...
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 27th, 2003, 09:39 AM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

I agree, if someone doesn't believe their faith is true, theyt vare delusional, and if someone believes someone velse's faith is wrong, it is not necessarily being intolerant to tell them. The Catholi...
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 27th, 2003, 09:37 AM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 26th, 2003, 03:33 PM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

You're taking this out of context. There is a word for this: scriptural ventriloquism-Making scripture say what you want it to say. Scripture talks about other gods in several senses. 1) in the sense ...
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 26th, 2003, 03:14 PM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

Tolkien denied. The only Spirit he had working in his life was thye one true God that he believed in. The Bible makes it very clear and argues quite logically that there is only one God, and that it i...
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 26th, 2003, 01:34 AM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

God Judges us axccording to what we know-you can't fool God. If he knows that you know his son is necessary for salvation, then he will hold you responsible if you reject his son. I know it's confusin...
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 25th, 2003, 11:19 PM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

One presumptuous mistake that people who Channel or get involved in the occult don't seem to consider is that their assumption that every spiritual force that tries to guide you has your best interest...
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 25th, 2003, 11:14 PM
    Thread: Petition
Post: Petition

I think we should petition PJ to create a movie based on the Silmarillion. What do you think?
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 1 423 November 25th, 2003, 05:25 PM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

I just had another thought C.S. Lewis (a gooid friend of Tolkien's) once recieved a letter from a mother whose son was concerned because he loved Aslan more than Jesus. C.s. Lewis' response was to te...
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 25th, 2003, 05:09 PM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

The crusades started out in retaliation for muslim harassmnent of Christian European citizens trying to make pilgrimages in the Holy land. Some overzealous Christians took it too far and went beyond w...
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 25th, 2003, 05:05 PM
    Thread: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?
Post: LOTR religion- Am I the only one?

I don't know where you are going, only God does. While God is clear thatg his son is necessary for salvation, hew also holds you responsible for what you know and only he can Judge your heart. What th...
GandalfElrondAragorn J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth 141 6,811 November 25th, 2003, 04:57 PM