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  Why did Elendil live so long?
Posted by: ZehnWaters - 2 hours ago - Forum: J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth - No Replies

Per the title. Why did Elendil live so long (322 years)? Was it simply because of the faithfulness of his line? If so, why didn't his grandson, Valandil, live as long (260 years)? Elendil didn't even die of old age (a trait shared by his father and sons) meaning he could have, theoretically, lived even LONGER. Also he was apparently hale enough to be helping Gil-Galad overthrow Sauron in combat. So what's the deal?

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  "Movies That Were Better Than the Book"
Posted by: Alvin Eriol - September 20th, 2022, 10:33 AM - Forum: J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth - Replies (1)

Okay, so who knows who this Z. J. Sums is, or his/her/ze's qualifications to make such judgements? Why even dignify the clutter of frankly annoying clickbait articles hyped on every web page nowadays, for which I retain a guilty tendency to peruse betimes?

Nonetheless, thought I'd share this entry from one such clickbait art for your consideration. This person has posted a claim that PJ's movies were better than the book(s).

Quote:The [book] series essentially invented the fantasy genre as we know it today, while at the same time providing some biting social commentary about the state of the world during the middle of the 20th century.
I think JRRT might have something to say about both claims made in this sentence, especially the 2nd!

Quote:Peter Jackson’s acclaimed film trilogy (...) streamlined the story and narrative into a more easily digestible… 12 hours, while still maintaining the themes that made Tolkien’s world so beloved.

We've had many a discussion on whether or not the themes were maintained, haven't we? Was it "streamlined", or butchered?

Now I've often opined that, yes, PJ had to do certain things to facilitate exposition in a movie, that necessarily differ from how it is done in written literature. At the same time, he made rather odd revisions and transpositions that IMO couldn't always be justified as necessary to make the movie comprehensible, or even short enough.

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  Love and Elves in Middle Earth
Posted by: ZornMuffin - September 19th, 2022, 04:52 PM - Forum: J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth - No Replies

I was wondering what "I love you"  in the Elvish language means, furthermore, I wanted to know more about love in the elven culture. How do they love, etc? Also, are there books about that topic? Lastly, I wanted to ask if anyone knows if there is a phrase, word, or name you call someone in the Elven language that is more than simply "I love you" something that signifies eternal love.

Thank you, everyone, in advance!!!

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  Berenstain Bears 60th Anniversary
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  Scooby Doo anniversary
Posted by: badlands - September 18th, 2022, 11:13 PM - Forum: Vampire Movies and TV Shows - No Replies


Happy anniversary, Scooby Doo.

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Posted by: Lots-A-Watts - September 16th, 2022, 11:51 AM - Forum: Andre Norton - No Replies



Andre's Reading Corner (andre-norton.com)

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  Rings of Power
Posted by: gzhindra - September 15th, 2022, 12:14 PM - Forum: J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth - Replies (1)

Have any of you seen any episodes of the new series?
From what i can tell, it seems like a departure from what Tolkien wrote.

I saw this on youtube.
Seems rather strange for a Middle earth character.

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  Elvish skin colour?
Posted by: ZehnWaters - September 12th, 2022, 01:00 PM - Forum: J.R.R. Tolkien and Middle-earth - Replies (9)

I know Mr. Martinez discussed this (quite strongly) in a blog-post already but I had a few clarifications I wished to discuss in light of the ongoing fight about this with the Rings of Power being released.

I always assumed Elves (and Dwarves, while we're on the topic) would be, largely, like their human counterparts (i.e. dark in regions humans were dark and lighter-skinned where humans were likewise).  The only hole in this belief, however (as pointed out to me): Elves, being immortal, wouldn't evolve like humans.  What's more, they're less affected by the climate (as we see when Legolas prances around in light clothing in a snow storm).  I honestly have no answer to this save that they may have started out a variety of colours.  But, then, why were all of the Noldor "fair-skinned" (except ruddy Mahtan, apparently)?

I heard somewhere that the Easterlings of Beleriand called the Elves they knew "white fiends" but I cannot find a reference for that.  This would still play into my own assumptions, however (leaving almost all Avari and many Silvan out of this conception).

Eöl is named "dark elf" but no specification on WHY (beyond, perhaps, his demeanor).

If anyone has any other passages or thought I'd appreciate them.

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  Need the name of a classic story
Posted by: darrwin@aol.com - September 10th, 2022, 12:38 AM - Forum: Science Fiction and Fantasy Authors - Replies (2)

Helping out a teacher friend who wants to use a classic story in her class.
It's probably by one of the "Old Masters" and it involves an art dealer on Mars and a stolen artifact.
Any clues?
Email darrwin@aol.com

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  Chicon 8 - The 80th World SF convention
Posted by: Irene - September 7th, 2022, 09:31 AM - Forum: Scifi & Fantasy Conventions - No Replies

The convention was OK. Once I figured out how to work the program.
They announced that there would not be a printed program.
So, I reluctantly got the program on my Nook. Selected program items, and then viewed just the “My Program” chosen items. This would mean bringing my Nook with me during the day.
I was able to access from my hotel room.
So, Thursday I volunteered for 3 hours at the Art Show, and when done, I tried to access the program AT the Art show.  It appears that I only had (without paying $10/day) access from my room.  Luckily, they had printed out a huge grid for the program items.  So, I went back to my room and transferred my program items to the grid.
The place was a three-dimensional maze. The hotel had lots of bathrooms, but most were hidden in corners or inside the suites (so from the hall there was no signage, until you were inside the suite of 5 rooms).  The only 2 times I left the hotel was to walk outside between towers – direct through a crosswalk. The elevators often became a wait, but the escalators went almost everywhere. For the one 3rd floor location, I eventually found the stairs down. 
No access to the Airmeet (virtual) program items. These were on-line only.  But I did go to lots of other program items.  The best was the "Antique books" where the books were handed around. Next best was with Connie Willis and Joe Halderman both talking on Time Travel. Joe complained that one should not sit right next to Connie, as she would steal all the good lines.  
I did spend $$$ in the dealer's room. Someone had Tom Canty trading cards, with 4 signed by Andre Norton.  So of course I had to purchase them.

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